Roy Halladay Staying Put

by Ben Cook on July 31, 2009

Update 7-31 3:30 CST:

It looks like Halladay is indeed staying put. While the Angels were making a late push, nothing got done before the deadline passed.

Update 7-31-09:

While there has been no news on a Roy Halladay trade 15 minutes after the official deadline, there are still rumblings that we may still hear about a deal similar to the Manny Ramirez trade last season that wasn’t announced until after the deadline had passed.

Joel Sherman points out that the Jays had said Scott Rolen wouldn’t be traded unless Halladay was and Rolen was traded to the Reds. So, there may be a deal we’ve not heard about.

Throwing more fuel on this possible rumor fire, ESPN’s Jayson Stark is reporting that the Angels have made a late push for Halladay with a deal centering on young pitcher Joe Saunders.

If there’s a deal, we should certainly begin to hear about it soon and of course, we’ll keep you updated.

Update 7-30-09:

FoxSports’ Ken Rosenthall is reporting that while the Red Sox, Rangers, Rays, Dodgers, and Angels are all still interested in acquiring the Jay’s ace, it is “very quiet” on the Halladay front.

With the Phillies out of the running and Blue Jays’ GM J.P. Ricciardi sticking to his high asking price, it seems more and more likely Halladay will remain with Toronto for the rest of the year.

I don’t see the Jays getting the same quality offers this off-season and certainly not at next years deadline. While I understand Ricciardi wants to get the most he can for his ace, the offers that have been floating around in the media seem more than fair.

Update IV 7-24-09

Man the Halladay info is flying fast and furious today. While the Sirius report was apparently false, Ed Price is now reporting that the Blue Jays are “considering [the] Phillies offer of RHP Drabek, 3B Donald, C Marson and OF Taylor.”

More as we get it…

Update III 7-24-09:

Andrew Fitzpatrick of Sirius Radio dropped the following note to me about the previous MLB XM report saying “Please be advised: ┬áSIRIUS XM Radio is NOT reporting that the Phillies are close to a Halladay trade.”

This would seem to confirm the statements of Jonathan Mayo we reported below. Also of note, the same Twitter account which made the false MLB XM claim is now reporting Buster Olney is reporting that the deal is close. Given the fallacy of the previous report, the latest alleged report should be viewed skeptically.

Update II 7-24-09:

MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo is refuting the earlier report that the trade is close saying the deal is “no where near being done; Not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s not close.”

Mayo still expects Halladay to end up in Philadelphia saying “usually, where there’s smoke there’s fire” but doesn’t think it will happen as soon as is currently being reported.

Bottom line: it sounds like Halladay’s probably a Phillie but will give a fairwell performance tonight in Toronto.

Update 7-24-09:

MLB XM and MLBNetwork are reporting that the Philadelphia Phillies are “close” to trading for Toronto Blue Jays ace, Roy Halladay.

An announcement could apparently come within the next 24 hours but considering Halladay is scheduled to start tonight for the Jays I would expect the deal to be completed within the next couple of hours. If Halladay is scratched from the start or pulled early, it will be a clear indication that a trade has been agreed upon.

If the Phillies do indeed land Halladay, it could set up a showdown with the St. Louis’ newly acquired slugger Matt Holliday with the Cardinals in town for a three game set against the Phils.

Update 7-22-09:

It’s time to catch up on all the latest rumblings & grumblings about Roy Halladay. This has all the hallmarks of being one of those deals that’s talked about for the whole month of July and then nothing happens. Thankfully though, the Jays have put a deadline on negotiations of July 29th when Halladay is schedule to make a start in Seattle.

ESPN Insider (subscription required) lists the Phillies, Rays, and Rangers as the front-runners to land the coveted pitcher. However, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s Joe Strauss reports that the Cardinals are still in the mix, and could get a deal done without trading Colby Rasmus.

Yahoo Sports’ Gordon Edes reports that the Phillies and other teams will likely turn their attention to other targets such as the Indians’ Cliff Lee if the Jays don’t come down off their sky high demands.

At the same time, the Toronto Sun’s Bob Elliot quotes Jay’s GM Ricciardi as saying “It’s unlikely Halladay will be dealt.”

Before Halladay hopefulls everywhere get too upset, ESPN’s Jason Stark reported this morning that Ricciardi expects talks for Halladay to heat up next week.

With all that being said, we still don’t know all that much more than we did a week ago. It sounds like the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, and Cubs are out of the running for Halladay. However, GM’s don’t exactly like to negotiate trades in full view of the public & the media. Most of what we hear from Ricciardi and other sources from around the league could just as easily be posturing to manuever the price more to their liking.

Nevertheless, we’ll keep you up-to-date on all the rumors as we hear them!

Update 7-16-09:

Lots of Halladay related news today. Ken Rosenthal started his most recent article with this tidbit:

“The Angels and Cardinals are among the teams interested in Roy Halladay, but rival executives are skeptical that either club can produce a strong enough package to land the Blue Jays’ ace.”

Rosenthal lists the Phillies and Yankees as the favorites to land Doc Halladay.

SI’s Jon Heyman says the Blue Jays have “told AL East contenders they much prefer to trade Halladay out of the division” which would seem to knock the Yankees back out of it.

Cardinals reporter Joe Strauss reported today that the Cardinals recently contacted the Jays but are now “downplaying” the possibilities of a trade due to the Jay’s high demands which apparently included Colby Rasmus. Rasmus would obviously be a deal breaker for the Cardinals and Strauss mentioned in a chat that he believes the Cardinals’ best shot at landing Halladay may require a third team involved.

That’s quite a few snippets of Halladay news today but as expected, it doesn’t appear anything is in the works yet & the only teams I’d really count “out” of it are the Red Sox and Yankees. Even then if one of them (read as Yankees) got desperate enough, even they could make a late surge.

Update 7-13-09:

Speaking in St. Louis before his All-Star game start, Roy Halladay estimated his chances of being traded at 50/50. That’s considerably better than the 20% chance Peter Gammons gave last week, but not quite as certain as Jon Heyman seemed yesterday.

Halladay once again cited his desire to play for a winner but failed to specify whether a contract extension would be required for him to waive his full no-trade clause.

While it’s probably anyone’s guess at this point where or even if Halladay gets traded, I’d be surprised if one contending team (most likely the Phillies) didn’t make a big push to land the ace.

However, if Cleveland begins to seriously consider trading lefty Cliff Lee, Toronto may be forced to either come off their sky-high demands, or wait to trade Halladay in the offseason or even at next year’s deadline.

Update 7-9-09:

Baseball Prospectus’ Will Carroll just Tweeted that the Jays may try to “hang” Vernon Wells onto any Roy Halladay deal similarly to how Mike Lowell was included in the deal that netted the Red Sox Josh Beckett.

Of course, Wells is still owed over $100 million by my count and Halladay is making quite a bit more than Beckett was back then as well.

To be honest, I don’t know that the Jays would find a team willing to take on Wells’ contract if Toronto threw in Halladay for free.

Update II 7-8-09:

The New York Post’s Joel Sherman says that the Phillies should be viewed as the favorite to land Halladay from the Jays. He quotes on GM as saying “No team in baseball is more motivated to get a starter than the Phillies.”

Sherman also lists the Cardinals and Rangers as darkhorses in the bidding. As mentioned previously, the Cardinals have two top prospects the Jays are known to covet and as Sherman notes, have nearly $30 million coming off the books next year.

Despite that increased flexibility, Bernie Miklaz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch makes a pretty convincing case on why he doesn’t the Cardinals are a fit.

Last but not least, Sherman finally gives some ink to the Rangers who have been rumored to be limited by payroll issues but certainly have the players possible to grab Toronto’s interest.

Update 7-8-09:

As expected, lots of talk around the league about Halladay. The NY Daily News doesn’t expect Toronto to trade within the division and also doesn’t think the Yankees would pay the price in players it would take to land the ace.

The Philadelphia Inquirer believes the Phillies will make a big push to land Doc Halladay, and they would seem to have the trade chips to do so. The only problem of course is that they’re not the only team that will be vying for his services.

MLB.com’s Dodger beat writer doesn’t seem to like the chances that Halladay will be wearing Dodger blue any time soon.

Future Redbirds author Erik Manning points out that Jay’s GM J.P. Ricciardi has long coveted Brett Wallace (who was drafted by the Blue Jays back in ’05 before attending ASU). Manning speculates that Wallace and highly touted prospect Pete Kozma would be the likely starting point if St. Louis were to acquire Halladay.

While some onlookers faulted Ricciardi for not trading Halladay sooner, when more teams would be able to afford to take on his salary, the feeding frenzy that has ensued after the announcement makes it clear he’s still going to get plenty of bang for his buck.

7-7-09

As the Toronto Blue Jays have fallen out of contention, the pressure to trade ace Roy Halladay has been mounting. Halladay’s a free agent after the 2010 season and with so few impact players on the trade market this year, the Jays could make a killing by trading the hurler.

Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi was quoted as saying “I’m not saying we’re going to shop him. But if something makes sense, we at least have to listen. We’re (leaning) more toward listening than we’ve ever been.”

Halladay, 32, has a full no trade clause but has reportedly stated he’d wave it to play for a contender.

When a pitcher like “Doc” is moved AND is more than just a rental, the entire league gets interested. And, according to a tweet by Jordan Bastian, MLB.com’s beat writer for the Jays, more than a dozen teams “have asked about Halladay [but] “Serious” interest [came from] NYY, NYM, STL, MIL, LAD, LAA, BOS”

While it’s going to take a king’s ransom for anyone to pry the former Cy Young winner away, I have a hard time believing the Jays would trade him within the division.

Sports Illustrated’s Jon Heyman tweeted that the “Jays may want top SS prospect in package for Doc.” Which, he points out would be “good for #phils (donald), #brewers (escobar), #chisox (beckham).”

We’ll undoubtedly be hearing MUCH more about possible trades in the coming days and we’ll keep this post updated with up to the minute news as we hear it. I get the feeling this year’s trade deadline is going to be a wild one!

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Brandon July 10, 2009 at 6:12 pm

I think the white sox have an outside shot at Halladay. The Jays really want a shortstop and would love to package wells or rolen with Halladay. I have no idea if the money works out with the salary cap and all but i propose a Halladay and Rolen to the White Sox for Floyd, Ramirez, Poreda and a Prospect. Thats my offer, and it then the sox move Beckam to short and Have a lineup of Pods, Pierzynski, Dye, Thome, Konerko, Quentin, Rolen, Getz, Beckam. And your rotation is Halladay, Buerhle, Danks, Contreras, Colon. What does anyone think?

RumorMill July 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm

Brandon, first of all there’s no salary cap in baseball. There’s only a luxury tax that teams have to pay if they go over.

Secondly, there’s no way Toronto does the deal you’re proposing. Rolen’s having a pretty good year and despite his contract is definitely worth something. Halladay as you know is worth a TON. Ramirez & Poreda is a good start but to be honest I think the Jays would probably ask for Beckam as well and probably a prospect to boot.

Jan July 14, 2009 at 8:44 pm

I think the Yankees will only go for Halladay when they find out if Wang’s injury is long term or not.

RumorMill July 15, 2009 at 9:23 am

Jan, I think even if Wang is out for an extended period of time, the Yankees aren’t going to be in the mix for Halladay. I just don’t think they’ve got the prospects to get it done, and I think it would cost a division rival even more than any other team.

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